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Rudy Giuliani ‘doubted Mike Pence could overturn the election as Donald Trump wished’
Posted by  badge  on Jun 17, 2022 - 09:54PM
Rudy Giuliani (middle), the former personal lawyer of ex-President Donald Trump (right), privately doubted that then-Vice President Mike Pence (left) had the authority to overturn the 2020 election, according to White House lawyer Eric Herschmann (Pictures: EPA/AP/Getty Images)

Ex-President ’s former lawyer Rudy Giuliani reportedly in private doubted that Vice President had the authority to overturn the presidential election.

Former White House lawyer Eric Herschmann said in the third public hearing by the House Select Committee investigating the Capitol riot that Giuliani on the morning of January 6 appeared to concede that a plan to have Pence overturn the election wouldn’t work.

Giuliani seemed to break from conservative lawyer John Eastman on the vice president’s role, Herschmann said on Thursday afternoon, sharing details of the private phone call hours before the insurrection.

‘He was asking me my view and analysis and the practical implications of it. And when we finished, he said, “Look, I believe, that you know, you’re probably right,”‘ said Herschmann, claiming that Giuliani ultimately believed Pence did not have the authority to follow Trump’s wish.

Former White House lawyer Eric Herschmann is seen displayed on screen during the third of eight planned public hearings of House Select Committee investigating the January 6 Capitol riot (Picture: Reuters)

However, Giuliani hours later said the opposite on stage at a Trump rally as he stood next to Eastman.

‘Every single thing that has been outlined as the plan for today is perfectly legal,’ said Giuliani in his speech on January 6. ‘I have Professor Eastman here with me to say a few words about that.’

While Giuliani and Eastman pushed for overturning the election results, Herschmann was with a group of White House lawyers who strongly opposed that effort.

An image of conservative lawyer John Eastman is projected at the third public hearing held by the House Select Committee investigating the Capitol riot (Picture: Getty Images)

Herschmann testified that Giuliani called him ‘out of the blue’ that morning to ask for his opinion on the plan to get Pence to block the election certification.

In addition, Herschmann recalled telling Eastman: ‘You’re going to turn around and tell 78-plus million people in this country that this is how you’re going to invalidate their votes? Because you think the election was stolen? You’re going to cause riots in the streets.’

The committee’s third hearing focused on Trump’s unsuccessful strides to stop Pence from certifying Joe Biden’s victory.

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